The Surprisingly Simple Tips Fix and Save Your Communication Breakdowns (w/Sandy G.)

Most relationship communication advice fixates on what to say, but the real breakthrough comes earlier than that: understanding what’s driving you. W

I sit down with Sandy Gerber, emotional intelligence expert, to unpack why certain people feel effortless to connect with and why other conversations seem to go off the rails no matter how “careful” your words are.

Sandy breaks down her model of successful communication,  and we talk about the fundamentals that shape everything from dating choices to everyday friction, and tips on how you can instantly reduce confusion, resentment, and mind reading.

We also get into nonverbal communication and first impressions. Sandy shares “connection cues” like mirroring posture and tone, watching where someone’s feet point, and how to look more approachable when you’re nervous. Then we move into emotional regulation tools for high-stakes moments.

We map out the necessary conversations and how to make conflict resolution cleaner and kinder. If you want healthier relationships, better communication skills, and more confident dating, this episode is for you.

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Transcript

Welcome And A New Angle

Speaker 0:01

Hey you. Welcome to The Dating Chit, a space designed to help you move beyond assumptions and guesswork so you can date and love with clarity and confidence. I'm your host, Tea. Today we're diving into relationship communication, but from a completely different angle. We often think communication is just about the words we choose. But it's actually so much more. It's about how you show up, how you read the room, and how you truly connect with the person in front of you. My guest today is Sandy Gerber. Sandy is an expert in emotional intelligence and the creator of the emotional magnet framework. It's a fascinating look at why we're naturally drawn to certain people and why we struggle so much with others in this conversation. We're breaking down how to understand your own magnetic needs first, how to read others more clearly, and how to build a connection that actually lasts in dating, in relationships, and in life. Let's dive in.

Sandy’s Origin Story In Communication

Speaker 1:10

Hi, Sandy. Welcome to the pod. Thank you. I've been so looking forward to diving to the topic today with you on emotional intelligence communication, especially your expertise on emotional magnets. I'm looking forward to our conversation. What inspired you to devote yourself to this topic, emotional intelligence communications? I've been fascinated with communication since I was a child. My mom was a psychologist and she taught us a little bit about body language when we were little. And when I was, you know, 12 or so, I remember taking one of her books from her library on body language to try and figure out what the girls were whispering about at the lockers. And I was just always very interested in the power of words, how words can make people make an action or listen. So I was the kid that other kids asked Sandy, what do I say to get my parents to say yes? You know, so crafting communications always been in my blood. You know, then life evolved into becoming a marketer. I took that passion into marketing because essentially you're writing copy to help people to listen and to act and to buy. That evolved into emotional intelligence and communication when I realized, you know, my life was really needing a change. Communication is definitely a powerful tool for all of us. Yeah. And, you know, most of us haven't been trained in communication formally, right? We just pick it up from our family members and our work situations. And they're not always the best teachers, right? So we have to really figure out communication from failing at it. You know, what we do wrong in communication usually lands with us not to do it again. Those of us that have taken some training, great. You know, they're the ones that are really advancing in the world and leading, the ones that have learned about emotional intelligence and how they're communicating with themselves. That's where true leadership is born. Thank you so much for sharing that. Before we jump start, may I please invite you to tell our audience, uh, after the conversation we have today, what do you think we'll all be learning at the end of the show? Well, it depends what questions you ask. But of course, my hope is that they understand that to start to be better at communication, it's not just about developing your skills. You first have to understand yourself better because our conversation with ourselves is the conversation we're having with everyone else. So it all starts with understanding yourself better, and then you can connect with anyone anywhere. Are you providing tools for all of us to understand ourselves better today? Yes, happy to provide both. Would you like to start with communication magnets? Sure. So this process, I developed this framework, if you will, and it's a really quick, easy tool to understand why you make the choices that you do, and it helps you to communicate better in your life. So I found this from a failure. I was really successful about 20 years ago. I was an award-winning communication expert, and yet I was failing at the most important conversations in my life. I had a failed marriage. I was burnt out at work, and I had like I hadn't spoken to my friends in weeks. Everyone was looking at my life and saying, wow, she's so successful, but I didn't feel successful because I wasn't communicating well in my personal relationships. So that really started eating at me. And I think people can relate to that. You know, we try to look so successful through social and all these other things, but yet, how are we actually really feeling? Are we feeling successful? So I wasn't. And so I thought, okay, I got to do something about this, right? At the end of the day, what I really wanted to was a relationship like my parents. I wanted 50 years of marriage and walking hand in hand and respectful, fun friendship, you know, and loving. My parents are happily married. Yeah. Yeah, they're awesome together, super happily supportive. It's so rare, right? Like it's so rare, it's so hard to find, and it looks so easy and it's not. So I thought, okay, I'm not, I'm not gonna dive into another relationship right now. I'm gonna work on me first because the pattern was there, right? I didn't just have one failed marriage, I had two. And I was like, okay, there's definitely something wrong in my communication. So that sent me on a path. And I was on a mission, truly. I read everything I could get my hands on for 10 years. So I was a single mom. I signed off men for 10 years. I didn't want to date, I didn't want to do anything. I just wanted to understand what I truly needed to be happy. I'm so grateful for that journey because I learned so much about myself. That's where the magnets started to form. I stumbled upon this research from the 60s, and it was like a

Failure That Sparked Emotional Magnets

Speaker 5:55

New York bookstore used book, and it was research on emotional motivation. And I thought, okay, I was on Amazon, I was down some Amazon spiral. I had poured a glass of wine, I was reading this used book, and I thought, I'm just gonna skim through it, you know? And hours later, I looked up and I hadn't even touched my wine and I killed the book, right? Like it was great because I realized, wow, this is like, this is telling me about myself. I'm learning about myself. And so that book was the magic power of emotional appeal. It looked like a comic book, like it was old. And I was looking at the time for like a sales book, not even a relationship book. Right after that, I went to tell people, hey, try and explain what I'd learned. And I was tripping over it. It was a bit too academic. The marketer in me was like, we got to make this simpler. So I turned it into an acronym, SAVE, S-A-B-E. And I didn't call them emotional appeals, I called them emotional magnets because this is truly what attracts and repels people in your life. These magnets, I started using them in my business. I had a little startup in my bedroom and I started using them in my business and in my networking, and my business grew very quickly to a top 100 fastest growing company. Okay. Using these tools. You develop this tool, and this tool applies for both business and personal life. Yes, yes. Because I I had created at first because I was like trying to understand myself. And then I was like, let me use it in my business, which I did. And in networking, it made me way more confident meeting new people, right? Because I wasn't going into events thinking, what do I say? I was like, ooh, I wonder what their magnet is. And I was asking questions. And because of that, our connection happened easily. And I really ended up loving meeting new people. Then I came to a point where I was like, okay, I might be ready to date again. And I went on this first date with this fella. And I remember thinking to myself, I don't want to bring out the list of all the things I want. And I don't want that crazy little banter that you do. And I just want to get to the point, is this worth our time or not? Like most of us feel. On a first date. Yeah, on our first date. So I was like, I got nothing to lose. So I turned to him and I said, Hey, buddy, this is what you're signing up for. There's four magnets that emotionally attract people in life. And mine are experience and achievement. What are yours? And he just kind of looked at me like, whoa, she's intense, you know. I love that. Yeah. And then he told me his, right? And he told me his were safety and value. And I remember thinking, this is a great conversation. Quality conversation. We're really getting to know each other, like a little bit beyond just surface, right? It was totally real, right? And I I fell in love with him right in that moment, right? Because we were having a real substantial conversation about what we truly need to be happy in our life. We've been honoring that ever since for 12 years. We have a phenomenal relationship. Our communication is very clear and very understood. And we empathize with each other because we know what each other needs. It's just so refreshing. So I was so excited at this transformation in my business, transformation in my personal life. And people started saying, like, how did you find this happiness? What did you do? And so I wrote a book about it. That's where the book Emotional Magnetism came from. And it's been such a ride, T, because people are like, wow, like it's saved my marriage. It's helping me sell better. It's making me a better person, a better parent, teacher, friend. That's just so wonderful to hear because I feel like that book found me. Like that's the reason I'm here is to share that information with people and to recognize that it's really about you understanding yourself first and then sharing that with people because it gives you the permission to just be you, be who you are and tell people what you need and communicate from a truthful place, and you'll have that connection. Are we able to take our relationship as an example to show our audience how your magnets series works? Yeah, sure.

The SAVE Magnet Framework Explained

Speaker 9:58

So there's four magnets. The acronym is SAVE. So S stands for safety. So this is people who are secure, you know, they need structure, they need boundaries, very skilled in what they do, their family is their priority. A stands for achievement. So that's definitely me setting goals, smashing the goals, needing recognition, giving opinion. These are thought leaders. These are people that really want to make an achievement. And then you have value. And so those are people that are motivated by worth, by growth, by significance. They are really focused on the return on their time, money, and potential. And then you have experience. Another one of mine, which is basically people who want to innovate, they love change, they love new, you know, they're the one that's asking for karaoke on a Tuesday, you know, like these are the people that really want to have a new experience. So when you think about yourself, T, what magnet do you think you are? Like when you make your choices in your personal and professional life, you'll know because that final decision is either grounded in safety, achievement, value, or experience. What do you think you are? Safety, achievement, value, or experience? Experience and achievement, I think. So what happens there is that when you are coming up against a decision, let's say, like, you're gonna go buy a car, right? And so you want to buy a car experience, you're like, what's it like to ride in that car, to drive that car? What does it feel like? Where can I take it? You know? And achievement, you're like, do I look good in this car? You know? How does it make it look like I'm I'm doing well? You know, what kind of brand is it? And there's nothing wrong with that. It's just who you are and how you're made up. And that second part you mentioned is part of my achievement mindset. Yes, it is, yeah. It's important to people who are achievement that, you know, they're recognized for their efforts. That's just how they're made up. It's what fuels them, right? And these things are developed as early as six years of age, right? It's based on your upbringing, it's based on what you've gone through, seasons of your life. So basically, SAVE this method is for me to understand myself better. First, to understand why you make the choices that you do, and then explain that to people in your life. Look, what I need emotionally to be happy in this life is achievement and experience. And they net then learn more about you and empathize. So I'll

Everyday Magnet Clashes And Work Wins

Speaker 12:25

give you an example. My husband and I were ordering dinner one late, right? And so it was just takeout. I pulled out my app and I'm scrolling through and I'm looking for his emotional magnet is safety. So I'm looking for something in his comfort zone. Like he always orders the same thing, right? He never orders anything new because he's safety. So I'm looking for and I see, oh, burritos. Okay, yeah. He loves those. Hey, love, how about Chipotle? Do you want that? Right. And he says, Oh, no, no, no, I can't do that. I was like, Well, why? And he's like, Well, it's three blocks away, Sandy. And I was like, but like you love their burritos. And he's like, I do. He couldn't validate that expense of that delivery that's only three blocks away because his other emotional magnet is value. I see. I see. So these are the types of fights that we have with our partners, or that where we're looking at them going, you are weird, or what is what your problem, you know? I was like, the magnet explains all that behaviors. It does. And then, you know, I turn him later, I'm like, okay, yeah, your value and safety, I get it. How far does it have to be for us to have this delivered, right? And he's like five blocks. So just look further down, order from six blocks away. So this is the thing is like when you know someone's magnet and you communicate to that, it just makes like you're you're not fighting as much, you're not arguing as much because you understand them better, right? It's just who they are and what they need to be happy. That's how it works in your personal life and in business. Imagine I used to have all my team members do the quiz. So I knew what they needed from me as their leader. Nice. It then helped me be a better leader. And they were really engaged. They came with me from company to company to company because they knew I knew what they needed to be happy. So, you know, if I had a team member who's driven by achievement and I reschedule that performance review, they're gonna be very upset, right? Because that's what they need. They need that recognition. If I had a team member that was motivated by safety and I'm coming in talking about AI and it's so exciting, and this is great, they're gonna be freaked out because they need structure and stability and they need boundaries. It's so important to think about the people you're talking to, what they need before you even start communicating. That's the way you connect. So, Sandy, beyond this, what else can people do to connect better, even maybe quicker with others to build a relationship?

Nonverbal Cues For Instant Connection

Speaker 14:48

Oh, yeah. But you can look at what you're saying without any words, right? You can look at your nonverbal communication. I call them connection cues. This is how you can create instant connection. Because like in the first four minutes of meeting someone tea, our nonverbal accounts for half of contact. And we're just talking about in general, whoever we meet, right? Either friendship, normal social network setting, or you're on a date. Oh, especially on a date, right? This is really important. I always get asked, Sandy, what do I do to make a quick connection, right? Like instantly. And also to leave a great impression. Yes, leave a good impression. But also more importantly, people make up a judgment of you within seven seconds. Yeah, and assumptions. They're already thinking who you are, do they like you, do they not like you within a few seconds? So what you can do is immediately look at how a person is gesturing or positioning themselves, and you can mirror that activity. It's called mirroring. Oh, no, I heard of that Siri, and it makes other people feel you are in the same world, you're you have same languages, you think same things. If they are leaning forward, you lean forward. If their arms are crossed, cross your arms. If their tone is low, lower your tone. Because what that does, it creates a subconscious connection that you're similar. And we like people who are like us. I like that. That's a very practical tips. And then another tip that you can do is like a lot of people are nervous meeting people in new situations. And since the pandemic and just, you know, hybrid and everything, maybe they even have a resting cranky face, right? Like you just need a little tool in your pocket to make you look more approachable. So one that's really popular is what I call the power of E. You're gonna shape your face like you're saying the letter E, right? So you can do it with me. Yeah, perfect. You're not actually saying E, because that would be really weird, but just like thinking. Yeah. And what happens is you end up looking more approachable, more friendly, more trustworthy. I always tell people go and look in the mirror and don't smile and see what people would think of you with your resting cranky face. Same logic about, you know, smile at everybody, right? Yeah. Be a pleasant person. Like you walk into an event, people are nervous. If you even think of E in your head, you're thinking about that and not, oh, are they judging me on my outfit and my whatever, you know? Some people said, Oh, it's a little weird, Sandy saying e. And I'm like, then think money because that's what you're attracting if you look more approachable, you know? So that's one way to do it. I think also really being aware of how your words are landing with people. We're not aware of that either. See what they're doing when you talk. You know, are they open and receptive? Are they closed? You know, are their feet pointed at the door because they want to escape your conversation, which is actually a real thing. Watch where people's feet and toes are pointed because that's where people subconsciously want to go. Just being aware of how your content's landing, what people are doing when you're speaking. And then also, what does your face look like when you're talking? Are you approachable and friendly looking? Makes a huge difference. Could you please clarify further on the last point you made about how your words landing? When you say something, how is someone reacting to it? You know, are their hands in front of their face like this? Because if their hands are in front of their face, they're blocking their thinking. And that thinking is typically negative. We're so focused on saying stuff that we're not focused on how it's landing with people. And if we pay attention to that, you can actually really address your conversation, change it, ask a question. Hey, I'm just checking in. You know, you see someone put their hand or finger over their mouth, stop talking and ask a question. Hey, I'm just checking in. Do you have any questions for me? Do you, you know, do you is this making sense? Because they'll be like, oh, yeah, okay, yeah. And then you're back into that connection. I like that. It's like a reflection, like, oh, uh, what I'm saying, uh is that receptive to the other person? Does that make sense to the other person? Is that pleasant dish for the other person? Right? It's about connection. And if we somewhere along the line, we've forgotten that. I think maybe with social and everything that's been going on with tech, we just speak to get our point across. It's really actually about connection. Is this message landing with you? You know, and what are they doing when I speak? You know, are you creating the space to let them process and also reflect back what you're saying? It's a mindful choice. So, what are some good examples, Sandy, you could provide? Like in your experience, like people are constantly doing that blast connection in a social setting or on day that are not even aware of it. A lot of it is in how they're holding their body language. Are they blocking connection by sitting with their arms crossed? Do they have their face blocked? There's a bunch of things that they can do that we don't even know we're doing it. Echoes back to your suggestions made earlier about mirroring. Yeah, mirroring is is the quickest way to build connection with someone. So really paying attention to how they're seated, how they're holding their body. If someone's tone is high or low, it's really good to copy that because it feels like you have a connection. It's really gender-fluid here, basically, because it's really about your positioning in your body and how you're perceived. You know, T, it's really about paying attention to what someone's doing when they're talking and mirroring that or just giving them the space so that they feel comfortable to share what they feel. I do sense that through our conversation for the past 10 minutes, when you're talking about in social setting and on dates, how do we nurture connections better? Core concept is paying attention. Definitely. And we haven't really been taught that. I imagine, you know, paying attention is such a natural thing to do, but I guess when we're not at present, often we don't even think about that. Yeah, we have this like mental playlist going on in our head every day. We do. Right? Like it's looping. And it's it's it's really we're not even really choosing our thoughts. They're just happening. They're just happening, yes. When we actually pay attention to our thoughts, then we can actually do something about that, right? So that's really emotional intelligence at the core, being aware of what you're thinking, being aware of how you're acting and how you're feeling. It's the ability to understand, notice, and be able to manage your emotions. So, Sandy, aside from all the tips you just shared so far, is there anything else you could share to help someone who has been intentional to improve their communication skills but have not gone so far? so I think you need to look at what you're doing before you speak. This is the biggest piece. Like I could share a story with you when I was in early in my career, I was asked to present at a board meeting, and I was excited because I've never done that before. And it and also really nervous because it was a big group of people. Totally. Yeah. You've been in a meeting like that.

Regulate Emotions With The EQ Breath

Speaker 22:00

Before where you've been a little nervous, of course, right? So many times. So I was getting prepared. I was given 10 minutes, three slides, and I rehearsed for days. And so I start and I get started, and I'm I'm like, you know, jittery and nervous. And the CFO cuts me off and starts asking me what if questions, like fast, one after the other. And I don't know what you would do in that situation, but I was like so nervous and I panicked. I didn't know what to do. So I just did the worst thing you could possibly do in that situation and I made up answers. Oh, wow. That sounds terrible. And it was because it made me look unprofessional. And I just, I just wanted that experience to end so quickly that I just did what I could to get out of there. What I didn't have in that situation was a tool to use in my pocket to regulate me, to regulate my emotions. Over the years, I've worked through emotional intelligence and communication. And I developed this little tool that you can use. And I think everybody, once they hear this, they they apply it because it's so simple. We've just never been taught. See, I was, my face was bright red. I get really red when I'm upset. My hands were tight, my jaw was clenched. So noticing and locating where that emotion is in your body is step number one. Because we all feel emotion in our body before our mind even registers. You're still just going, oh, my face is hot, my jaw is clenched. So you're just noticing that, and that brings you right back into the present moment. And then step two is what you just said, T. It's like noticing and naming what you're feeling. So when you name what you're feeling, this is where neuroscience comes in because the neuroscientists at UCLA call it effect labeling. When you name what you're feeling, so I feel frustrated, I feel overwhelmed, your amygdala, the activity in your brain, that little panic button, that activity calms down by 50% just by naming your emotion. What I should have said to myself is I feel embarrassed, I feel fear. And that would have calmed my nervous system down just like that. I can see during that process, you had this internal conversation, you were not reacting to anything. You had that moment yourself. Even just like three seconds, I think it's valuable. That's the part where you're actually training your brain how to process emotion, right? So I'm feeling frustrated. So it's in my face, I'm feeling frustrated, I'm feeling fear. And then the most important thing is what I call an EQ breath. It's a seven-second breath. And most of us have been told, just breathe, just pause. Have you been told that? I've heard of that, but I maybe I've also heard of seven seconds breath or five seconds breath. It's more like, you know, pausing, taking time, and breathing out with space. Yeah. This is the one where I found I was doing a lot of kundalini yoga and it was helping me with regulation. Three seconds in through the nose quietly, and four seconds out through the mouth quietly. And the key is quiet, because if it's not quiet, you're in another whole conversation. In the meantime, your CFO still waiting for your answer right now. Yeah, but that's okay because basically this is the thing. People are scared to pause. And it's okay to pause. It's totally okay to pause, yes. Even on a big stage, giving a speech to 100 people, it's okay to pause. And pause is powerful. Especially on a stage, yeah. If you think about the leaders that you admire in your life, those people pause before they speak. What exactly happened after you did the seven seconds breaths? I felt the heat in my face and in my jaw. I named the feeling, so I was feeling fear. And then I took the seven-second breath, three seconds in, four seconds out. And that space gave me the opportunity to choose my words. And I turned back and say, thanks for asking. I'll get back to you on that. Oh, that's great. Yeah. Instead of making answers, those eight words would have given me my dignity. That's the power of this tool, is that it's something that we've never been trained in, and we need to keep training ourselves to do that. When you name, you know, your feeling, you locate it, and you do that breath. Now you're in control of your emotions and you can choose to respond. And, you know, it's really interesting because once you start doing this, you model it for other people and they start doing it too. It sounds a very easy to adapt tool. Would you mind just repeating this is a three-step process, right? Yes. So step one is to locate the feeling, the emotion in your body. Step two is to name that feeling specifically. And then step three is to take the EQ breath three seconds in and four seconds out. Regulating our emotions, such a journey and learning process for all of us, right? And we often learn through our relationships and hoping in the next relationship we'll do better. But often I think it's really hard though, especially when we feel activated, right? In big conflict, in a heated conversation. Like in those moments, like what is the first step to take to really regulate our emotions effectively? The first thing that you want to do is do what I just said, right? So first, like, whoa, I'm getting triggered here. Like we all know to say that to ourselves, but we don't know what that means. When you all of a sudden, whoa, that's upsetting me. I'm feeling that on my gut. I'm feeling it on my shoulders. What am I actually feeling? Because we are thinking while someone's speaking. So you do that first. And then the most important thing to do is to share what you're feeling with that person. So the three steps you shared not only applies in a social setting like conference room, but also importantly, in a relationship scenario where you may be having a difficult conversation with your partner. Yes, 100%. Because those are when it's more difficult than ever, right? Yeah, that is the most challenging.

Necessary Conversations Using I Feel

Speaker 28:08

What I call necessary conversations, right? Necessary conversations, many of us will think in our mind for days what to say. But the easiest way and the most effective way to have those conversations is to start with two words. I feel blank. I feel blank. Because what happens is the other person doesn't get defensive. Usually we're like, you did this and you did that, and I feel this. But if you just start with, hey, I want to share something with you, I feel frustrated, you know, that this has happened. The person's curious. When you start sharing about your feelings, it's not in a place of accusation or assumption. And it's easy to receive empathy from your partner. That's right. I would say, like, you know, after I share my own feelings, I will, you know, give an opportunity to my partner. It's like, what do you think of this? How did you feel? How did I make you feel? I would love to know that. That's the most important thing. And then you tell them, so let's say you have a problem. If you I call it the honest sandwich, basically it's three steps too. So the whole point of the tools that I create, they need to be accessible in the moment when we need them, right? There's so many great tools out there. Need to be simple and quick and easy to remember. Yes. So this is one that's really easy. Honest sandwich. You start with, I feel I need next. So those are the three things that you're thinking through. So let's use this like I felt frustrated that you cut me off. I need to know that my opinion matters. Going forward, could you pause and let me speak? Right. So those are the three things that you can do to move forward in the conversation. It also moves you from a state of feeling blame to moving the conversation forward. And that's the whole point of a good conversation. I like that. Nobody is being accused and nobody's a victim in in this relationship during this conversation, just sharing feelings. We're usually scared to do so because we're worried about being judged and making someone angry or upset. And we're not typically trained in how to share our emotions. Many of us will bottle them up, we'll avoid them, or we'll throw carbs at them. Right? Yes, yes, because our fear, right? We we just never know whether this person who has only started dating maybe one month, how this person is gonna react if I bring up my feelings. You know, is it gonna be too much for this person? Am I gonna be rejected, right? But in the end, uh, we all should be knowing. I correct me if I were wrong, that I believe, you know, in the end, at some point, you gotta share that feeling that being troubling you. So no matter what, at some point throughout your relationship, you will have to share, right? Otherwise, without sharing your feelings, you know, your bottle will pop open. We're scared of it. You look at like situationships and things like that that are happening now, right? And dating and stuff. It's a different world for sure than when I was dating, but I do know that at some point you're gonna need to have a conversation. At some point, and it's up to you when that point is, right? So the best way to do that is I found just like I did on my first date with my now husband of 12 years, I chose some courage to have that conversation and to share how I feel and what I need. And it's okay to ask for that. It's actually perfect to ask for that. And you want somebody to be able to listen and want to listen to what you need. That's the whole reason we're looking for a partner. We want to be taken seriously to be looked after for. That's right. That's what true partnership is, right? It's about feeling that connection. And I also think that relationships, they don't just go sour, they drift, right? What happens is people stop treating each other with that level of connection that they first did. Like my husband comes home from work or I come home from work, we get up, we go to the front door, we greet them because they're special. And we still do that 12 years later. So we want to make sure that we keep that connection intact. We need to honor the people in our lives and treat them with the same amount of connection that we had from the very beginning of the relationship. I love that message. Thank you for that. Well, it wasn't an easy lesson to learn either. I've learned a lot from you today already through this conversation. Is there other things you want to share at the end of a conversation today to our audience?

Keep Connection Alive And Take The Challenge

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I would invite your listeners to really take a good look at themselves, understand what it is that motivates them, what they need, and have some courage to share that with the people in their life. If anybody is interested in connecting with you, where can they find you? So they can find me at sandygerber.com. I also have a podcast, Magnetic Communication. And that is really unique because every week on Tuesday, it's just a 10-minute podcast where I share a tool with you every week. I was just nominated for a Women's Podcasters Award for it in uh mindset and mental health. So Oh wow. Congratulations, Sandy. Thank you. It means a lot to me because it really means it's helping people to communicate better. So good to have you today, Sandy. Thank you so much for our conversation, Tea. All my best. If there's one thing to take away from my talk with Sandy today, it's this better communication doesn't start with what you say. It starts with how well you understand yourself. The way you speak to yourself determines how you show up for everyone else. So take a moment today to reflect what's driving you. what do you actually need in a relationship and are you communicating that clearly? here is my challenge for you. Identify that one most critical thing you need from a partner and communicate that to them this week. Uh use this technique we discussed today and see how the energy shifts. I truly wish you success with that conversation. If this episode resonated with you, please hit subscribe, leave a reading or review, and share with someone you know who's navigating communication hurdles right now. To explore more of Sandy's work and find your own emotional magnets, check out the links in the show notes. Thank you again for tuning in to this episode of the Dating Chit. I'm your host, Tongalag Liu , aka Tea. Until next time, keep showing up. Stay kind, stay curious, and never settle for less than the love that you truly deserve. See you in the next episode.